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Published on December 2, 2004 By Sabbatismus In Religion
Christmas Celebrated in Heaven and Earth!

Every year, it seems there is more attempts at censoring the celebration of Christ's birth in public. For the last 150 years Sabbatarians, cults and now the Atheists have been loudly proclaiming, Christ's birthday is never celebrated in Scripture and shouldn't be celebrated at all.

You are now going to find that not only is Christ Birthday celebrated! It is celebrated both in Heaven and on earth.

Luke records that God sent his angel to proclaim this message: Luke 2:9And, lo, the angel of the Lord came upon them, and the glory of the Lord shone round about them: and they were sore afraid. 10And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people, . 11For unto you is born THIS DAY in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord."

The Very Day of Christ birth is declared to be a day of "good tidings and great joy" in Scripture. And it is God Almighty that sends the Angel to declare it! Notice the words that the the angel of the Lord was sent to them to proclaim, "Good tidings of of GREAT JOY, WHICH SHALL BE TO ALL PEOPLE" Unto you is born THIS DAY, in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord".

What annoys the Sabbatarians and Atheists is that Christ's birthday causes every people on every continent of the world to sing "Glory to God in the Highest" and "Christ our Saviour is born" . But thus, the scripture is fulfillled as promised, "GREAT JOY SHALL BE TO ALL PEOPLE.

They wonder why God couldn't just leave Christ for some exclusive Jewish Christian group, why did He have to make Christ to be "Great Joy to ALL PEOPLE" all the nations!

The GREAT JOY is for ALL people, on the day of Christ's birth. That is what Christians celebrate the Great Joy along with all people, which is the birth of Christ the Lord. But not only was it to be "Good tidings of Great Joy FOR A ALL PEOPLE".

But the Heavenly Host of Angels also rejoiced "that day" as it is written, "13And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God, and saying, 14Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men.

Instead rejoicing with the Angels and "all people" , on "THIS DAY" some have decided to rather make up excuses why Christ birth shouldn't be celebrated, though scripture says quite the contrary.

To respond to those who will say that Dec.25th is a pagan day, I answer that Christ is the creator of "all things" all the days of the week are created by him and He sustains all things. Christ owns 7 days a week 365 days a year. Col.1 says in verse 16, "For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, " For the Sabbatarians and other cults, to think that Christ can't be born on December 25th because the pagans did this or that on that day is foolishness. God can do whatever he wants too on that day because he owns all the days, the Pagans don't own any of them. They simply misused the day.

The Sabbatarians say God would never let Christ be born on a day Pagans celebrated. It is not the Pagans which own the days, it is Christ who owns "all the days" . The Pagans only misused the days. Christ returned the days which were abused back to the RIGHTFUL OWNER, GOD HIMSELF.

God has done this with many things both past in present. He takes pagans and TRANSFORMS them to Christians.

The Hebrew worship in the Old Testament is full of similarities.

The pagans had a temple, then God gives Israelites a temple.

The pagans had a priesthood, God gives Israelites a priesthood.

The Pagan Priests had vestments, the Levitical priesthood has vestments.

The Pagans used incense in worship, the Israelites used incense in worship.

The Pagans offered animal sacrifices, the Israelites offered animal sacrifices.

The Pagans, had spring and fall harvest feasts, God gives Israel spring and fall harvest feasts.

The pagans baptized, the Christians baptized.

The list is endless. The Puritanism you can't do this and you can't do that because the pagans had a similarity is not found in scripture. It is a doctrine of fanatics, like Hislop. Who taught that a steeple on a church was a phallic symbol, when the truth was that the Architects built steeples on the Church because Christ said, "If I be LIFTED UP, I will draw ALL MEN unto me." So, the Architects of the Churches lived the cross high so that all men would see it and come unto Christ.

The kind of Pharisaical Puritanism that exists upon some of the Sabbatarian groups has blinded them from the plain evidence in scripture that Christ's birth was not only to be celebrated ON EARTH, but in Heaven ALSO.

According to their Puritanism, the Holy Spirit would never have referred to Christ as "the Sun of Righteousness" in Malachi. Nor would God ever let the Holy Spirit say in Ps.84, "11For the LORD God is a SUN and shield" .

According to the extremist view, The Holy Spirit would never call Christ, ""the light of the world" Because, everyone knows that the Sun is what gives the earth light!

But, that kind of fanaticism is not from God. It is from the same Pharisaical mind that existed in Christ's day by the self-righteous Pharisees who prided themselves in keeping the law to the nth degree, while they were inwardly, unrighteous.

Nevertheless, the Sabbatarians are once again to be shown wrong about Christ's birth not to be celebrated.

The whole world rejoices and sings, "Oh little town of Bethlehem" and "Christ the new born King is born" . There is no excuse for not celebrating Christ's birth.

My article is proof that Christ's birthday was celebrated not only on earth but also in heaven by the multitude of angels. God so desired the celebration of Christ's birthday that he sent forth his angels to announce it and to celebrate it. Further, there is a prophetic implication, in the scripture that "all people" would celebrate His birthday. We can certainly look back and see this scripture fulfilled every December 25th when "all people" from every nation on earth all rejoice and sing praises to God for the birth of Christ. I would therefore, conclude that it has been shown that it is the will of God that Christ's birthday be celebrated, otherwise God would not have sent his angels to announce it and to celebrate it. Thus, God gave us both divine example and human example of his will. And when we celebrate Christ birthday, we also fulfill the prophecy of "all people" rejoicing. In another article I will show that it December 25th is very close if not the exact date of Christ's birth.

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on Dec 21, 2004
The Dutch Abbot Nicholas was the original Santa, his death on the 6th of December was the orignal date that present were given not the 25th. Therefore the original day of celbration was the 6th not the 25th.
Unless your saying that the bible was quoting the Yule Pagan festival as the celebration!
This date was wiped out when Christ-mass was declared as the 25th of December by Pope Julius.
At the time this was the date of the Pagan Yule feast as they were still on the Julian Calender.
Today Yule Festival falls on the 22nd of December for Nothern and Midsummer for Southern pagans.

Oh, that's today, the Feast is upon us, Yule/Midsummer tiding where ever you may be.
on Dec 21, 2004
Who really cares when Jesus was born?....

It's not important Zoo as long as He is one day born in a individual's heart!

Except a man be born again..... Christ can be born again in the heart of man at any time, in any month but today is the day of salvation. Imagine this, Christmas is occuring every day of the year?

God Bless
on Dec 23, 2004
Over 70,000 new Christians yearly world wide. (last reported rate.) About 450 martyrs every year. There have been more martyred for their faith in the 20th century than all the other centuries after Christ's death combined.

And we're going to argue a date?

Yeah, stuff like this is "fun" to argue and ponder, but as long as it stays fun, and not a line in the sand. It's an in-house debate but too many people define their houses by such nonsense as this. This kind of crap makes me so angry at Christians and those professing to be Christians because they can't seem to get that through their heads. When it comes down to it, would Jesus be more pleased with logical gymnastics or with the fact you love God with all your power and you love your neighbor as you'd love yourself -- indeed as He loved you? Does he care that you can defend the obscure debatable stuff not resolved by our best thinkers in hundreds of years. No. I love a good theological arguement and I love defending my faith but this is a silly thing to get too wrapped up in.

Better to drop to your knees than stand there and ponder.

Jesus came feasting; he fasted when approrpriate as well. Celebrate what is worth celebrating and fast when you ought to fast. Does it have to be so complicated?
on Dec 23, 2004
Additional thoughts to OH, OH, Christmas is Pagan

The Adventist, JW's and Armstrongite tend to believe that God is some how afraid of the pagans. I'm not of the much of one who tends to believe that God was scared away from December 25th because it was the Saturnalia or the birth day of the Sun. Especially, that when God would refer to Christ as the "Sun of Righteousness" in the book of Malachi and refer to Christ as, "the Light of the World" in John. We all know the light of the world, literally speaking is the sun. But, John is not afraid to spiritualize the sun in reference to God, even though the pagans worshiped the sun. Instead, God takes uses it for Himself. Such language displays the lack of concern for what some think is paganism. That is a direct demonstration of God taking pagan concepts such as the worship of the Sun and demonstrating God willingness to take was is generally thought of as Pagan worship of the Sun and use it to refer to Christ. So, I don't believe God is controlled or ruled by what the Pagans do or did. He is very likely to do the opposite and demonstrate He isn't by deliberately confronting paganism, not running away as some would have it. . In fact the implications of the birth day "the Light of the World, and the Sun of Righteousness" has very strong implications as to the day of Christ's birth than any other. The strength of the witness that Christ was born at night, at when the world was at its darkest is very enlightening. Just as Christ was likely to be born on the darkest day of the year, when mankind was still in the darkness without redemption. One can also see that in the creation account of Genesis when darkness covered the abyss, God brought light into the world, from which John gospel borrows the theme of Light. The coming of Christ in scripture is like the making of a new creation. Thus, John follows that theme. Again, the birth of the Sun becomes instead of the day to be avoided, the day to recognize with the second creation is beginning as the first one was physical so the second is spiritual. Paul uses these same principles of interpretation with Christ and Adam. John uses them, with Christ and the Light of the World.

There is a good deal of scriptural implication that Christ was born during the Saturnalia as well as historical proofs. A careful reading of events in Luke two seem to prohibit any chance of Christ's birth at the Feast. Luke, nor Matthew accounts gives no hint as do any of the others, that Christ was born during any Feast. Someone sent me a rather interesting case for in fact the impossiblity of that.

One the other hand, the earlist historical data does say Christ was born on or near December 25 to Jan 7 or so. Please see my article Christ born on Dec.25th.
The scripture in Malachi refers to Christ as the "Sun of Righteousness" . This inspired scripture shows how unlike the purist thinking of today, the prophet Malachi's was. The Iranian mystery god Mithra was called the Sun of Righteousness. The inspired scripture uses the same name as the god of the Mithra to refer to Son of God, Jesus Christ. It completely disannuls any argument that God can't use something pagan for His own purpose. And proves my point, that God rather than avoiding paganism, confronts it on its own terms. Oh, and the Sun of Righteousness, the same term used by Malachi, they celebrated the birth on December 25th.

The fact is; God often appropriates unto Himself what He wishes. He's God, He gets to do that. All things belong to Him and He takes what he wishes. God doesn't have any fear of paganism. When God wants to refer to Christ as "The Sun of Righteousness" just like the Mitras, then He can do it and He does. I'm not going to attack Malachi, he was inspired to use that name. When God wants to refer to Himself as "the Light of the World". Like the Pagans referred to their god, God can do it and does. He's God, He is the creator and uses His creation as He wishes.

on Dec 23, 2004
Insightful for that sabbatismus

the wise men (consider them wise because they believed the Word of God) came from the east and bowed the knee before Him, willingly, not by force.

One day every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess that he is Lord to the glory of God! That day it will be by force.

The fact is; God often appropriates unto Himself what He wishes. He's God, He gets to do that. All things belong to Him and He takes what he wishes.



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