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Former Armstrong Spliter Group Murders Members
Published on March 13, 2005 By Sabbatismus In Current Events
It was only a matter of time. One of the splinter groups from the Worldwide Church of God, started by the self-professed endtime Apostle and Prophet Herbert W. Armstrong, had a member come in and end the lives of 7 and himself by shooting them.

The self-proclaimed "Living Church of God" became a deadly place to be attending Church. These "Churches of God" all hold similar beliefs as the David Koresh Cult that burned his followers alive in Waco, Texas. Their teachings are that Christians must live a Jewish Lifestyle and if you become a member of their church, you'll be one of the very, very few who will enter the kingdom of God. Of course, they all profess to be God's ENDTIME WORK. Indeed, it was at least "end time" for these poor folks.

These cults have a way of becoming a magnet for the unstable. Since, these cults are started by someone so unstable self-deceived and egotistical as to call himself "God's Endtime Work" and an Apostle and/or "endtime Prophet". Birds of a feather, flock together. The unstable tend to be somewhat of outcasts from society and the cults promise them a place to be superior or at least SPECIAL ABOVE OTHERS . Thus, you find them full of dissenter society and fundamentalist bible thumpers who have their ax to grind for being so mistreated. The cult gives them a voice by which they can lash out at society. But, given enough built up anger, they will lash out even at their own group. This is one of the reasons they are constantly splintering. That is the case of this weekend's Sabbath services where a member murdered himself after 7 of his fellow worshipers and injured four others.,2933,150255,00.htmlLink

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on Mar 24, 2005
Want to know more about the Armstrong cult. Read hereLink

Good to have you back sabbattismus. Thanks for the post.

"Unfortunately, Terry didn't have time to repent," Geiger said. "But God may provide a provision for that." The Living Church of God teaches that people have a second chance to repent when Christ returns to Earth.

This sort of teaching is palatable to the flesh.... religion thrives on it.

The Word of God and The Spirit of God will remove the scales from the blinded eyes of religion, if only one wishes.

God Bless
on Mar 25, 2005
Thank you preacherman, I am trying to save them with all my heart. I'm telling them, what I wish someone had told me before, I spent ten years in that cult. But, maybe the seeds planted today, will bring forth fruit in the future. If they are are open to be watered from the Spirit of the Lord.
on Mar 25, 2005
ParaTed2k says, "Yet another "Blame the Victim" rant!." Wait a minute, let's not forget to see the whole picture. I don't ONLY blame the murderer, I blame the whole damnable organization, that uses and abuses people and religion. Apparrently, the LCG is blaming, itself too, because, they are firing the Pastor. There are lot's of people defensively claiming that no one but Terry Ratzmann should take responsiblity for the crime he committed. They very defensively, immediately respond, "blaming the victims" . However, I would think it is very prudent to diligient look into the Armstrong doctrines, they adapted and see that pestiferous doctrines of soul sleep and a second life to be saved may have well contributed to the crime. Firing a minister may be action, but it isn't the real action that is needed. One may well remember that Ratzmann was first a victim of the Armstrong theology as were the members that he injured and murdered. Perhaps, and very likely there is, a connection.
on Mar 25, 2005
"A member of the cult for ten years" Ah, now I understand the hatred. I thought it must be something like that. I have encountered dislike and opposition out in the world, but usually outright hatred comes from those who were once brothers and sisters. You should know that not all of us were involved in the politics of the Church and were really called out of the confusion of this world's religions to understand that only Jesus Christ can straighten out the mess the world is in. I don't know how you were injured but God's Truth is the same - Yesterday, Today and forever. It wasn't Mr. Armstrong's Church. God only used him to restore Truth that had been lost. You know and I know there were all kinds of people in the Congregations, but our Father knows His own. As I said and I mean it sincerely, I am sorry if you were hurt and I'm sorry if I provoked you. I came to this site in the first place because of the comparison to David Koresh. You know Mr. Koresh was trying to provide his own place of safety and his worst fears came upon him. I will pray for you and I will say Goodbye. cl
on Mar 25, 2005
Dear Ms. Cl: You'll find the same hatred by Christ who despised the hypocrisy of the Pharisees in Mt.23 as I despise the hypocrisy and abuse of sincere Christians. You guy are still stuck in 1972 "place of safety" cult nonsense. In 33 years you haven't grown to understand Christ or the scipture enough to know that he that seeks to save his life shall lose it. Remember that scripture? You don't really think the followers of Koresh thought that Koresh made a place of safety for them do you? No, they were niave enough to think "God" gave tham that place as a the place of safety. Just like you think you are going to some place of safety.

If you are sorry I'm hurt, you wouldn't keep supporting the cult(s) that hurt people by first destroying their souls in a false religion and then cleaning out their purses for their own selfish-ambition. All just to support their few remaining days on earth before they go to be judged for their false gospel and deception. Please save yor prayers for youself and your childrnen and your children's children. My God help you to get out of that cult of deception.
on Jul 08, 2005

1 Corinthians - Chapter 13

1Cr 13:1 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not love, I am become [as] sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.
1Cr 13:2 And though I have [the gift of] prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not love, I am nothing.
1Cr 13:3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed [the poor], and though I give my body to be burned, and have not love, it profiteth me nothing.
1Cr 13:4 Love suffereth long, [and] is kind; love envieth not; love vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,
1Cr 13:5 Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;
1Cr 13:6 Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;
1Cr 13:7 Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.
1Cr 13:8 Love never faileth: but whether [there be] prophecies, they shall fail; whether [there be] tongues, they shall cease; whether [there be] knowledge, it shall vanish away.
1Cr 13:9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.
1Cr 13:10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.
1Cr 13:11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
1Cr 13:12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.
1Cr 13:13 And now abideth faith, hope, love, these three; but the greatest of these [is] love.

This is what we all need! I am deeply saddened to see such hate between brethren. We all need to focus on Gods love toward us. He is amazing and loves us. He also told us to love one another! May the God of all grace bless every one of you with a spirit of peace and humility!

The King of Glory has entered the gates and He wants to make us part of His family. We need to walk according to His word. Colossians 3:17 And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do ALL in he name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by Him.

Grace and peace be with you all, sincerely CM
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