Amen!

why does this remind me of the effects of german propaganda during WWII... kind of scary to do a historical analysis of it... but i guess the rest of the world only needs to support capitalism with a bit of democracy on the side to really impress you... afterall... 10 years ago people were saying the same thing when Saddam got into power to give the US access to iraqi oil... isn't that what this entire war was about... the oil???

why does this remind me of the effects of german propaganda during WWII... kind of scary to do a historical analysis of it... but i guess the rest of the world only needs to support capitalism with a bit of democracy on the side to really impress you... afterall... 10 years ago people were saying the same thing when Saddam got into power to give the US access to iraqi oil... isn't that what this entire war was about... the oil???... and i wish this damn site was faster so i didn't have to spend so much time putting the extra two cents into the real democracy that the rest of the world embraces

why is it that America is constantly compared to Hitler and the Nazis and WW2 Germany?

You know, some people just can't stand American success. The uninformed keep repeating the same ole mantra, wasn't the war about oil. Yet, they can't trace a drop of any oil in Iraq to America. It's about feedom and democracy for the a people in bondage, yet some just won't see it that way.

You don't know anything what really is happening in Iraq. Hint: watch some other newschannels than cnbc or CNN for a while. But I quess God forbids you of getting unbiased view of whats really happening in _world_ outside of the view through star and stripes coloured glasses

yeah....Panu, maybe you are right.....perhaps i need to fire up the old Al-jazeera news feeds....then i will understand everything Middle East But it is interesting that you speak of watching nbc or cnn.....aren't those the websites that tell us that Bush is a total failure?

You don't know anything what really is happening in Iraq. Hint: watch some other newschannels than cnbc or CNN for a while. But I quess God forbids you of getting unbiased view of whats really happening in _world_ outside of the view through star and stripes coloured glasses

What part of "dancing in the streets" don't you undersand? Or is that just spin and really isn't happening?

Don't get too carried away honey. There are a lot of Iraquis we should bless too--those who had the courage to vote.

I think it's funny how people think that Al-Jazeera is completely unbiased and 100% accurate, just because the American media isn't completely unbiased and 100% accurate. These people don't seem to understand that both sides could be biased and inaccurate, because they need to see the world in black and white.

Excuse me, this jingoist crap is making me vomit ....

How the heck you can quote with this thing. But anyway I didn't mention Al Jazeera (or any other news channel) What I tried to tell is that if you had watched some other media than you would have seen something else than just happy people dancing on the streets and reports of merry voting.

I have lost my trust on CNN mainly because I see other sources of news more frequent, and almost everytime when there's politics involved their view is more or less sugar coated to please someobody (americans? I don't know)

And don't get me wrong, I know it's a good thing that Iraqis can vote, but when most of the people are afraid to vote or are afraid what will happen to them or their relatives if they vote then everything isn't just perfect and happy. People who think that something can be solved by exploding bombs on innocent people are not high on my ranks, but as long as religion is affecting certain people in certain conditions as it is now - well the violence begins to feed itself.

Pete -

10 years ago people were saying the same thing when Saddam got into power to give the US access to iraqi oil...

Excuse me?! Saddam came into power in 1995? Your grasp of history being what it is, we are probably safe to ignore the rest of your reply.

Panu -

when most of the people are afraid to vote or are afraid what will happen to them or their relatives if they vote then everything isn't just perfect and happy.

Huh? Since when does 40% equal "most"? Sorry, but I'm taking you "wrong".

Cheers,
Daiwa

How the heck you can quote with this thing. But anyway I didn't mention Al Jazeera (or any other news channel) What I tried to tell is that if you had watched some other media than you would have seen something else than just happy people dancing on the streets and reports of merry voting.

That's true. You didn't mention any actual news channel. Therefore, it sounds as though you're being entirely hypothetical.
Besides, something tells me that even your news source might not be 100% accurate and objectively unbiased.

Sincere patriotism and love of my country compels me to say what nobody has. We have already lost the war in Iraq. All of the posturing, voting, raids and chest-thumping in the world won't change that. We needed to have fought a true counterinsurgency war, not the conventional fiasco we currently are waging. Our soldiers are sitting ducks and we don't have the staying power. Those of you who doubt the truth of what I'm saying, mark this date and write me in a year. We'll see who is right.